Guide · Footage estimates
Getting a length from a scale reading.
Gross weight, drum tare and a published conductor figure will get a length close enough to argue about, if the working is written down.
Weight is the oldest check in the trade and still the one that works when the tag is gone. A reel on a platform scale gives a total; subtract the drum and what remains is cable. Divide by the published weight of that construction and the answer is a length, close enough to argue about and honest about its error.
The arithmetic is simple and the judgement is not. Conductor weight varies with stranding and insulation thickness, the drum is rarely marked with its own tare, and a wet jacket holds water. Used deliberately, the method narrows a range. Used carelessly, it produces a confident number that nobody will accept.
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01 Method
The arithmetic, step by step
Start with a gross weight from a certified scale, not a bathroom scale and not a crane readout. Subtract the drum, which is often stencilled on the flange and otherwise has to be estimated from the drum's size and construction. What is left is the cable, still carrying water, dirt and whatever is wrapped around it.
Multiply that remainder by the published length per unit of weight for the exact construction, size and stranding. Tables usually give weight per thousand feet, so the calculation is a division rather than a guess. Run it twice with a low and a high figure from the table rather than once with a single number.
02 Error
Where the error comes from
Four things push a weight estimate off, and the drum tare is the largest. A steel reel that has been repainted, or a timber lagging that has taken water, can be far heavier than its stencil suggests. Water inside a jacket, on a wet shield or in a flooded tray adds weight that is not conductor. Banding, lagging and retained wraps add a little more.
Scale accuracy is the quiet one. A yard scale that has drifted, or a reading taken while the truck was still rocking, moves the total by more than most sellers expect. Use one certified scale, write the number down at the time, and weigh the same reel twice when the first result looks wrong.
| Source | Direction | How to reduce it |
|---|---|---|
| Drum tare | Overstates cable weight | Read the flange stencil or weigh an empty drum |
| Water ingress | Overstates length | Drain it, note the condition, expect a discount |
| Banding and lagging | Overstates length | Weigh as it stands and say so |
| Strand and insulation | Either direction | Match the exact construction in the table |
| Scale accuracy | Either direction | Use a certified scale and record the reading |
03 Judgement
When weight beats a wrap count
Counting wraps works well on a full reel with an even, tight, machine-wound layer. It fails on a reel that has been re-reeled, on one with a lumpy outer layer, and on any reel where the last few hundred feet were pulled by hand and wound back badly. On a part-used reel, weight and a thickness measurement are usually more honest.
Weight also wins when the reel is large and a count would take an hour, or when the outer wraps are damaged and not worth counting. A count is better when the reel is small, dry and clearly machine-wound. Where both are available, report both and say which one you trust and why.
A weight estimate is a range, not a measurement. Present it with the method attached and the range will hold up at the scale; present a bare figure and someone will re-weigh the reel and start again.
04 Records
Keeping the working straight
Write down the scale reading, the drum tare you used and where it came from, the construction you matched and the table figure. A buyer who can see the working will accept a wide range. A buyer handed a bare number will re-weigh the reel and arrive at their own figure, which is usually the one that gets used.
Photograph the scale display next to the reel if the scale is on site. It sounds excessive until the first time a disputed figure has to be settled by looking at a picture taken on the day, rather than by two people remembering a number that nobody wrote down at the time.
FAQ Seller questions
What sellers ask before they send a list
Answers describe how the buying desk works. They are not an offer, a rate or a promise of purchase.
How accurate is a footage estimate by weight?
Usually within a working margin, not to the foot. Drum tare, water and retained wraps all push the figure one way or another. Treat the result as a range, say what the range is based on, and it will hold up at the scale better than a single precise-looking number.
Where do I find published conductor weight?
Manufacturer data sheets and cable tables give weight per thousand feet for each construction, size and stranding. Use the sheet for the exact cable you have, since insulation thickness and armour change the total substantially. Where a sheet is unavailable, the tag sometimes prints net weight.
Can I weigh a reel on a truck scale?
Yes, if the scale is certified and you record the reading rather than a recollection of it. Weigh the loaded truck and the empty truck on the same scale, or set the reel down alone if it can be handled safely. Two readings on one scale are worth more than one.
Does a wet reel weigh more?
Substantially, if water has entered the jacket, the shield or a flooded tray. Water is not conductor, so a wet reel read against a dry table overstates the length. Drain it, note the condition, and expect the figure to be discounted.
Why not just count the wraps?
Counting is fine on a full, tight, machine-wound reel and slow everywhere else. On a re-reeled or uneven reel the outer wraps are not representative, and the count can be out by more than a weight estimate. Use whichever method suits the reel in front of you.
Buy quote request
Tell us what you have
Type, conductor, voltage class and how much is on hand. Photos can follow by text or email. A buyer reviews the lot before anyone talks about money.
Prefer to talk it through? 954-740-1983 · saleselectricalbuyers@gmail.com